Echium - any hints ?

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Echium - any hints ?

Postby czechrzyca » Fri Oct 13, 2006 2:47 pm

In a private garden in Geneva I saw a beatiful plant: Echium wildpretii.
I'd like to try it in my zone 5 (under glass I think).

I hope to find any grower here and get some advice.

By the way, is it a perennial ?
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Postby sara » Fri Oct 13, 2006 2:55 pm

Echium is a perennial and the seeds are widely available. I'm not sure of the wildpretii variety, but mostly echium grows well (and hugely - to 3 metres or so, so perhaps we aren't talking of the same variety) from seed.
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Postby Pokie » Fri Oct 13, 2006 3:08 pm

sara wrote:Echium is a perennial and the seeds are widely available. I'm not sure of the wildpretii variety, but mostly echium grows well (and hugely - to 3 metres or so, so perhaps we aren't talking of the same variety) from seed.


Not all echium is perennial. The most common one (NOT wildpretti) ((forgotten the name)) is a shrub...
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Postby Lin » Fri Oct 13, 2006 7:07 pm

According to GA fact sheets Echium wildpretii is a biennial which grows to about 2m. The common variety E. candicans (Pride of Madeira) is a perennial. Echiums are a declared noxious weed in some areas - a pity as they are a useful plant and so easy to grow. Which is probably what makes them a weed :)
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Postby Pokie » Sun Oct 15, 2006 8:37 am

Thats weird because all the E. candicans I have seen grow to large shrubs with woody stems that never die down.

Mine is flowering now and it has the best electric blue colour! :D
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Postby Lin » Sun Oct 15, 2006 11:22 am

Sorry pokie, didn't mean to imply that e. candicans wasn't a shrub by calling it a perennial, just that it wasn't biennial like e. wildpretii. I've grown heaps of the shrubby echiums in my previous garden, they used to self sow all over the place. I love the bark on the trunks when they've been in for a few years, the flowers are a great colour and of course the bees love them. :D
I have a few in pots at the moment, still planning where to plant them in the new garden.
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Postby Pokie » Sun Oct 15, 2006 12:16 pm

Lin wrote:Sorry pokie, didn't mean to imply that e. candicans wasn't a shrub by calling it a perennial, just that it wasn't biennial like e. wildpretii. I've grown heaps of the shrubby echiums in my previous garden, they used to self sow all over the place. I love the bark on the trunks when they've been in for a few years, the flowers are a great colour and of course the bees love them. :D
I have a few in pots at the moment, still planning where to plant them in the new garden.


Oh ok. :)

I hope mine self sow profusely. Many people around the neighbourhood are already asking for some... :oops:
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Postby sara » Sun Oct 15, 2006 1:34 pm

Not all echium is perennial


If it survives for longer than 6 weeks in my garden, Pokie, it is a perennial. ;)

I've just seen seeds for wildpretii and pininana available ...
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Postby czechrzyca » Sun Oct 15, 2006 3:01 pm

sara wrote:I've just seen seeds for wildpretii and pininana available


Where ?

Mayby they are just as Agavae - die out after flowering ?

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Postby Pokie » Sun Oct 15, 2006 8:52 pm

sara wrote:
Not all echium is perennial


If it survives for longer than 6 weeks in my garden, Pokie, it is a perennial. ;)

I've just seen seeds for wildpretii and pininana available ...



Oh ok! :D

I've seen seed for Blue, White and Red E. candicans avilable plus the others.
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