'Greening Up' your dishwasher

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'Greening Up' your dishwasher

Postby Wanderer » Thu Mar 08, 2012 8:37 am

Some of you have probably heard this tip before but after testing it for nearly 2 months I am impressed and thought I'd pass it on.

We have an 'Enviro-cycle' or on-site septic treatment system so we have to be careful what sort of chemicals we put down the toilets and drains.
We have always used the 'recommended' big name brand of dishwasher detergent which also cost big dollars.

So I decided to go the Bi Carb Soda (detergent) and Vinegar (Rinse Aid) route.

Awesome :shock:
The dishes come out cleaner than ever and never have residue or streaks on them - even the glassware is perfect. Use the same amount of Bi Carb as detergent. In the same dispenser in the dishwasher.
I put a drop or two of blue food colouring in the vinegar to make it easy to see the Rinse Aid level in the machine.

Cheap as chips too :D

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Re: 'Greening Up' your dishwasher

Postby bubba louie » Thu Mar 08, 2012 11:54 am

I'll try this when I run out of detergent.
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Re: 'Greening Up' your dishwasher

Postby Pam » Thu Mar 08, 2012 12:44 pm

So the bicarb isn't abrasive?
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Re: 'Greening Up' your dishwasher

Postby Pam » Thu Mar 08, 2012 12:47 pm

bubba louie wrote:I'll try this when I run out of detergent.


Or you could try it before you run out of detergent and do a comparison.

Wanderer do you buy your bicarb in bulk? It's been a lifesaver for us with babies and puppies and carpets throughout. I'd desperately love to get rid of the carpet, but in the meantime the bicarb is a godsend.
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Re: 'Greening Up' your dishwasher

Postby Wanderer » Thu Mar 08, 2012 6:07 pm

Pam I think it is less abrasive than the commercial type dishwasher powders. And not caustic. Spill some on yourself or elsewhere and you are not in a panic to wash it off.

I wonder sometimes how much of this chemical crap is actually left on the crockery and glassware after dishwashing? Sometimes you open the dishwasher after a cycle and it still smells so strongly of the detergent.
Haven't found this problem with the Bi Carb

And I'm not buying in bulk as there's only 2 and a bit of us at home these days (the 'bit' is the son that's at Uni and works part time and has a social life - unlike us - so he's not at home all that much)
I've used about half a 1kg box in nearly two months

So a 1kg box should last at least 3 months when the dishwasher is used once a day and I think I have only filled the Rinse Aid dispenser with Vinegar twice in this time (Y)
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Re: 'Greening Up' your dishwasher

Postby Sam » Thu Mar 08, 2012 8:07 pm

Did you do this from the start of your dishwasher or later?

I've wanted to, but was worried about putting the vinegar in the rinse aid and having a chemical reaction.
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Re: 'Greening Up' your dishwasher

Postby bubba louie » Thu Mar 08, 2012 8:09 pm

I haven't used rinse aid in ages. The repair guy told me you don't need to if it's in the detergent already.
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Re: 'Greening Up' your dishwasher

Postby bubba louie » Thu Mar 08, 2012 8:10 pm

Sam wrote:Did you do this from the start of your dishwasher or later?

I've wanted to, but was worried about putting the vinegar in the rinse aid and having a chemical reaction.


Try a bit in an old container and stand back. :lol:
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Re: 'Greening Up' your dishwasher

Postby tam » Thu Mar 08, 2012 8:12 pm

The guy who services our treatment plant said the big name brand is the worst one to use in this type of system.
I will definately try the bicarb next wash.
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Re: 'Greening Up' your dishwasher

Postby Sam » Thu Mar 08, 2012 8:14 pm

Tam - try Northside Cleaning Supplies at Morayfield...they have lots of great stuff and a lot of bio cycle friendly.

Must be good - everytime Pam comes down I pick stuff up for her!

We get all of our dishwashing and laundry powder from there...and all the rest!
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Re: 'Greening Up' your dishwasher

Postby Wanderer » Fri Mar 09, 2012 8:24 am

Sam wrote:Did you do this from the start of your dishwasher or later?

I've wanted to, but was worried about putting the vinegar in the rinse aid and having a chemical reaction.


Lol bathbombs in the dishwasher :D
As the vinegar or rinse aid is only released after the wash cycle they don't even come into contact.

Another thing I've noticed is that there is no longer any pongy smells in the machine which sometimes happens when it is left closed.
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Re: 'Greening Up' your dishwasher

Postby Pam » Fri Mar 09, 2012 8:52 am

Ok, you've got me thinking, wanderer.

Moving right along, from the kitchen to the laundry, if I use bicarb soda (with my normal liquid) in the washing machine (followed by a vinegar rinse,) would the vinegar cancel out the effect of the salts in the bicarb as far as grey water goes? I'm thinking no, as the salt is still going in, but am vaguely hopeful.
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Re: 'Greening Up' your dishwasher

Postby bubba louie » Fri Mar 09, 2012 11:13 am

Pam wrote:Ok, you've got me thinking, wanderer.

Moving right along, from the kitchen to the laundry, if I use bicarb soda (with my normal liquid) in the washing machine (followed by a vinegar rinse,) would the vinegar cancel out the effect of the salts in the bicarb as far as grey water goes? I'm thinking no, as the salt is still going in, but am vaguely hopeful.



Does bicarb contain salt?
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Re: 'Greening Up' your dishwasher

Postby bubba louie » Fri Mar 09, 2012 11:18 am

Wanderer wrote:
Sam wrote:Did you do this from the start of your dishwasher or later?

I've wanted to, but was worried about putting the vinegar in the rinse aid and having a chemical reaction.


Lol bathbombs in the dishwasher :D
As the vinegar or rinse aid is only released after the wash cycle they don't even come into contact.

Another thing I've noticed is that there is no longer any pongy smells in the machine which sometimes happens when it is left closed.



I read it as being concerned about a reaction between the vinegar and any rinse aid that might still be in the dispenser.
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Re: 'Greening Up' your dishwasher

Postby Sam » Fri Mar 09, 2012 11:21 am

That's the one, BL!
“Tomatoes and oregano make it Italian, wine and tarragon
make it French, sour cream makes it Russian, lemon and
cinnamon make it Greek, soya sauce makes it Chinese, Garlic
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Re: 'Greening Up' your dishwasher

Postby Pam » Fri Mar 09, 2012 3:58 pm

bubba louie wrote:
Pam wrote:Ok, you've got me thinking, wanderer.

Moving right along, from the kitchen to the laundry, if I use bicarb soda (with my normal liquid) in the washing machine (followed by a vinegar rinse,) would the vinegar cancel out the effect of the salts in the bicarb as far as grey water goes? I'm thinking no, as the salt is still going in, but am vaguely hopeful.



Does bicarb contain salt?


Sodium = salt

Sam, can I come watch you blow up the dishwasher?
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Re: 'Greening Up' your dishwasher

Postby Wanderer » Fri Mar 09, 2012 5:31 pm

Wanderer wrote: but after testing it for nearly 2 months

and I haven't destroyed mine yet.

Google Bi Carb Soda and you'll find some interesting stuff.
Better yet........ ask your Grandma. If you are lucky enough to have one :(

Have a look at
http://frugalandthriving.com.au/2009/us ... carb-soda/

Oh and mean't to add re burnt saucepans I have actually poured in vinegar and Bi Carb at the same time. Was hopining for big fizzes etc but very little happened. Bit disappointing actually. Things really aren't the same as when you were a kid..... :cry:
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Re: 'Greening Up' your dishwasher

Postby tam » Fri Mar 09, 2012 8:33 pm

Sam, I used to buy bulk washing soda off them but now hubby is retired I just buy it at the supermarket. They certainly sell some different things now.
The guy who installed our biocycle told me what to use and we have had no trouble in 12 yrs.
NP laundry detergent & washing soda, clean the toilet with Jif and we have a liquid that I flush 3 monthly if I remember :oops:
Hair dye is bad and when I use cleaners around the house I throw the water on the driveway stones.
Same if I soak something in bleach.
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Re: 'Greening Up' your dishwasher

Postby Pam » Sat Mar 10, 2012 6:08 am

Oh and mean't to add re burnt saucepans I have actually poured in vinegar and Bi Carb at the same time. Was hopining for big fizzes etc but very little happened. Bit disappointing actually. Things really aren't the same as when you were a kid.....


Lol slightly entertaining for a nanosecond though no doubt. What DOES work is to put a small amount of water in the saucepan with a good amount of bicarb (don't be shy) then boil the heck out of it for a bit. The burnt bits tend to lift off. Just don't wander off to do something else and let it boil dry or you're back to where you started, but with a white salty redidue now as well.
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Re: 'Greening Up' your dishwasher

Postby Sam » Sat Mar 10, 2012 2:51 pm

tam wrote:Sam, I used to buy bulk washing soda off them but now hubby is retired I just buy it at the supermarket. They certainly sell some different things now.
The guy who installed our biocycle told me what to use and we have had no trouble in 12 yrs.
NP laundry detergent & washing soda, clean the toilet with Jif and we have a liquid that I flush 3 monthly if I remember :oops:
Hair dye is bad and when I use cleaners around the house I throw the water on the driveway stones.
Same if I soak something in bleach.


Okay - you've reminded me about washing soda.

I'm trying to remember if this is the product to put through the washing machine every 3 months or so to keep all the pipes nice, clean and supple.

Any thoughts?
“Tomatoes and oregano make it Italian, wine and tarragon
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