Atlas Cedar CEDRUS ATLANTICA (title edited)

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Atlas Cedar CEDRUS ATLANTICA (title edited)

Postby guzzigirl » Wed Jun 18, 2008 7:02 pm

Bought this at the markets today. Thought it had some potential...

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needle length is 2cm
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Re: Juniper or Pine????

Postby taffyman » Wed Jun 18, 2008 9:33 pm

Think it might be a Needle Juniper - Juniperus Rigida GG. If it is, they can make stunning Bonsai. Has it got potential? Yes, heaps - you got a good buy there (Y)
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Re: Juniper or Pine????

Postby guzzigirl » Wed Jun 18, 2008 10:25 pm

taffyman wrote:Think it might be a Needle Juniper - Juniperus Rigida GG. If it is, they can make stunning Bonsai. Has it got potential? Yes, heaps - you got a good buy there (Y)


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Re: Needle Juniper - Juniperus Rigida

Postby Pam » Thu Jun 19, 2008 6:34 am

I love it already! :D
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Re: Needle Juniper - Juniperus Rigida

Postby alpinebonsart » Mon Jan 05, 2009 4:49 am

Dont be disappointed but it is definately an Atlas Cedar CEDRUS ATLANTICA there is several sub species blue green and golden . In the shade a green Atlas will have a blue hue , but in full sun it will be a darker green . Either way far superior to a Needle juniper and with the change colours from shade to full sun they are absolutely stunning .That is an excellent specimen , have you began to shape and style your dream bonsai if so please post a pic if not why not ?? for more info and idea's on styling and For better quality pics "Google" " Bonsai Atlas Cedar"

I'm working towards improving my picture quality on this site .I have dozens of Atlas Cedars to work with but none of that quality. I use many unusual methods to train cedars to give an idea of how your tree can look with any cutting . As you have been onG.E for so long why dont you dummy style your tree and show pics, i'm sure you would get some fantastic comments and assistance.I dummy train trees when i'm stuck for styling no cutting or removal of any foliage until the finished style is acceptable .

Many good informals , literati , and slanting styles can be investigated using this method . Some switch on computer operaters use computer virtuals ,sorry out of my league , i use the KISS method . Keep It Simple Stupid and it works well for me .Cheers Ian
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Atlas Cedar foliage with its first cone {tree 15 years old from seed
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Re: Needle Juniper - Juniperus Rigida

Postby guzzigirl » Mon Jan 05, 2009 4:34 pm

alpinebonsart wrote:Dont be disappointed but it is definately an Atlas Cedar CEDRUS ATLANTICA ...


thanks for the ID and info alpinebonsart. I will definitely be looking it up. No I haven't started work on it yet, to my shame. may I plead having a broken wrist for the past 8 weeks as an excuse? I am a true beginner and have a few little projects going and perhaps one day will have something to be proud of.
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Re: Needle Juniper - Juniperus Rigida

Postby alpinebonsart » Mon Jan 05, 2009 5:03 pm

guzzigirl wrote:
alpinebonsart wrote:Dont be disappointed but it is definately an Atlas Cedar CEDRUS ATLANTICA ...


thanks for the ID and info alpinebonsart. I will definitely be looking it up. No I haven't started work on it yet, to my shame. may I plead having a broken wrist for the past 8 weeks as an excuse? I am a true beginner and have a few little projects going and perhaps one day will have something to be proud of.

You have the makings of a exceptional bonsai , excellent trunk movement , very nice branch placement and plenty of candles to improve ramafication /branchlets . Sorry to hear about your wrist . We are all beginners ,just at various stages . I will endevour to find a specimen like that and dummy train it online ,it may take a while . I would estimate that potted plant is around 8-12 years old by the look of the candles . Growing in good to excellent conditions 8-9 years , in poor conditions 10-12years old .

A good move would be to knock it out of its pot using a sharp knife slice vertically down the rootball no more the 10-15 mm deep 5-6 times around the perimetre of the roots without teasing the roots out place it into a pot 50mm bigger placing bonsai mix at the base and fill the outside with the same mix Available at Bunnings, filling it to the same level as per original .

Submurge in a bucket of water for 10 minutes to remove the air in the potting mix and the Nitrigen locked up in the rootball . The cuts will relieve the pressure on the rootball resulting in new root growth and a new flush of top growth within weeks improving your master class specimen .Cheers and happy future Bonsai Ian
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Re: Needle Juniper - Juniperus Rigida

Postby guzzigirl » Mon Jan 05, 2009 7:33 pm

I did repot it into a broader but shallow pot since those photos. Can't remember what the roots were like then though :oops: . The idea was to allow the roots grow out a bit more sideways before attacking it.
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Re: Needle Juniper - Juniperus Rigida

Postby imonetwo » Tue Jan 06, 2009 3:40 pm

Next time your going past, drop in and have a look at the cones mine is growing GG

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Re: Needle Juniper - Juniperus Rigida

Postby guzzigirl » Tue Jan 06, 2009 5:18 pm

imonetwo wrote:Next time your going past, drop in and have a look at the cones mine is growing GG

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thanks Eric. been a while since we had a natter.
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Re: Atlas Cedar CEDRUS ATLANTICA (title edited)

Postby imonetwo » Fri Jan 16, 2009 9:47 pm

First Cone on my cedar


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Re: Atlas Cedar CEDRUS ATLANTICA (title edited)

Postby taffyman » Fri Jan 16, 2009 9:49 pm

Good stuff Eric (Y) How old is the tree, did it come from a cutting?
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Re: Atlas Cedar CEDRUS ATLANTICA (title edited)

Postby imonetwo » Fri Jan 16, 2009 9:52 pm

9 years from seed Taffy :)

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Re: Atlas Cedar CEDRUS ATLANTICA (title edited)

Postby taffyman » Fri Jan 16, 2009 10:01 pm

9 years! No wonder they're a fairly slow growing tree. That's why I asked, because I guess from a cutting it would most likely produce cones earlier.
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Re: Atlas Cedar CEDRUS ATLANTICA (title edited)

Postby alpinebonsart » Tue Jan 20, 2009 7:08 am

imonetwo wrote:First Cone on my cedar


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Hi imonetwo is your Cedar an Atlas {atlantica} or a Deodara {Himalayan} .The Atlas has 15-20mm needles and the Deodara has 20-50mm needles . Cheers
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Re: Atlas Cedar CEDRUS ATLANTICA (title edited)

Postby imonetwo » Mon Jan 26, 2009 8:00 pm

Its a Cedrus Libani or Cedar of lebanon.Very similar to Atlas in colour etc,slightly longer needles.

Sorry for taking so long Ian, hot weather has me watering constantly, I have several 100 trees and I can water them all with 9 litres :)

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