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Postby MrFaulty » Wed Sep 07, 2011 4:58 pm

Hi, I am looking at making a water feature by gluing/cementing river stone to fibre cement (10mm thick) - tjhe fibre cement board is 600mm x 2100mm so quite large. Can anyone advise what is the best glue to use, I have b een advised by a builder than sand and cement will fail. I have been told Ardex? will be best? polyurethane?? any suggestions?

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Re: water feature glue

Postby Coustralee » Thu Sep 08, 2011 3:06 am

I'm not really sure when it comes to glues but I'd try selley's Knead-It.

I've used the Aqua one to stick together bathroom fittings and patch a rainwater tank. You knead it together and it makes a putty that will dry rock hard.

Some people seem to be using it to bond coral etc together in aquariums.


"A versatile hand kneadable, fast setting co-extruded epoxy repair system that can be used for repairing a multitude of things. It is especially suitable for application to damp, wet or underwater substrates. It comes in a handy roll form, with the white hardener encapsulated in the aqua green resin part. The product hardens in 20 – 30 minutes after mixing, to a white solid material."
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Re: water feature glue

Postby hoddo » Thu Sep 08, 2011 5:57 am

Epoxy will work but may be to expensive for an area that big. I would be inclined to use a good cement based tile adhesive like Supefixall by ASA (since bought out by bostik) to make it even stronger add megalastic liquid. This is what I use when laying glass mosaic tiles in swimming pools.
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Re: water feature glue

Postby MrFaulty » Fri Sep 09, 2011 8:43 am

Yeah, the kneed it would be too expensive but alos not flexible at all - believe I need something with flex to offset the differential in expansion rates between the fibre cement and the rock. Will try that Bostik product I think.

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Re: water feature glue

Postby hoddo » Sat Sep 10, 2011 8:46 am

Adding the megalastic liquid instead of water is supposed to increase the flexability and adhesion but it does reduce work time and is a bit harder to work with. Try to work out of the direct sun as heat will set the glue alot faster. Apply the glue with a notched trowel and press the pebbles onto the fibre cement sheet and clean up as you go with a damp sponge as once the superfixall dries its hard to remove
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Re: water feature glue

Postby MrFaulty » Thu Oct 20, 2011 2:37 pm

Results
Finally fjnhished my water feature, no photos yet though. I glued the polished black river stone to the compressed fibre cement (12mm) board using sikaflex polyurethane, then the outdoor sikaflex glue, both seem to have held well; I did etch half the rocks with a masonry blade on an angle grinder but stopped doing this after removing a small piece of my finger!

After the glue had been allowed to set for about a week I framed the board and used ardite to flow in betwen the rocks to a depth of about 3mm.

A few days later I wrestled the board into place and was suprised that it held together (so far).

Will get the pump working in the next week or so and put some photos up
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Re: water feature glue

Postby Pam » Fri Oct 21, 2011 6:07 am

I can't wait to see the results - it sounds fantastic. :D
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Re: water feature glue

Postby MrFaulty » Thu Nov 17, 2011 8:22 am

Unfortubnately the pump turned out to be a bit small for the head (approx 1.8 metres) and hence the waterfall is more of a watertrickle :( Will have to do for a while

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