Good Bush Tucker or Poison?

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Good Bush Tucker or Poison?

Postby abrogard » Fri Apr 25, 2014 8:33 pm

My wife gathered these berries with every intention of eating them.

I'm very doubtful of such doings.

South Australia, Murray Bridge region they're growing.

Note the spike on the plant. No particular scent that I could distinguish. Low growing bush, less than 2 metres.

Can anyone identify or pass an opinion on how to proceed?

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Re: Good Bush Tucker or Poison?

Postby Pam » Sat Apr 26, 2014 7:56 am

lol I'm having a bit of a chuckle just imagining the look that must have been on your face.

I'd say it's a solanum of some sort. Karyn may know it.
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Re: Good Bush Tucker or Poison?

Postby abrogard » Sat Apr 26, 2014 8:53 am

Solanum could be a bit of a worry, couldn't it? My wife apparently strongly believes it to be wolfberry, or boxthorn, Lycium Barbarum

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lycium_barbarum

I'd like to find a definitive way to separate the two but I guess it's a question of painstakingly checking off details - shape of leaf, where the fruit grows, details of textures, hairs or whatever....

anyone know of an immediate distinguishing feature i can check perhaps?
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Re: Good Bush Tucker or Poison?

Postby Pam » Sat Apr 26, 2014 9:09 am

Even that is still in the solanum family Abrogard.

Her fruits don't appear to be the right shape though for it to be that?
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Re: Good Bush Tucker or Poison?

Postby abrogard » Sat Apr 26, 2014 9:26 am

Still Solanum? See? I'm not good at this. I missed that fact.

Yes, I think the fruits are the wrong shape but she scoffs at that, says that different growers get different shapes, I think is what she's saying... shows me many pictures from the web of people growing something all over China ( mainly ), smiling broadly and having a great time picking these little berries... many of which are more rectangular than those she has.

Saying, I guess, that good nutrition gives rise to the more rectangular shape.

I wonder how much danger there really is? Any procedures for diminishing any danger? Such as perhaps boiling at over 10 million degrees or something denatures the poisons? Something like that?
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Re: Good Bush Tucker or Poison?

Postby bubba louie » Sat Apr 26, 2014 1:26 pm

No way would I eat anything picked in the wild without it being IDed by someone suitably knowledgable. A photo is definitely not enough.
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Re: Good Bush Tucker or Poison?

Postby bubba louie » Sat Apr 26, 2014 1:38 pm

She may be right with her ID but the problem is there are a lot of solanums that look similar.


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Re: Good Bush Tucker or Poison?

Postby karyn » Sat Apr 26, 2014 2:18 pm

Sorry, I don't know it. But I wouldn't eat it, just to be sure. :)
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Re: Good Bush Tucker or Poison?

Postby karyn » Sat Apr 26, 2014 4:39 pm

One of my friends from Murray Bridge does bush-care and land-care. She thinks it's African Box Thorn. I've done a Google, and think she's right. It's a national declared weed, none of the fact sheets I looked at mentioned if the berries are edible. Other searching found links that say they're edible, but might make you hallucinate, give you gastro or kill you. Depends which site you look at! The more "scientific" sites say they're poisonous, a couple of old hippies on You Tube say they're not... I say kill them with fire!
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Re: Good Bush Tucker or Poison?

Postby Pam » Sat Apr 26, 2014 5:36 pm

I'd say Karyn's friend has hit the nail on the head, Abrogard. It's still lycium, just not the one that produces hundreds of smiling people harvesting it.

https://www.google.com.au/search?q=afri ... 8geBmIDYBg

I'm guessing it would be safe to assume you won't be joining her in a feast? lol

Incidentally, if your wife that keen to get it, I saw Goji Berry plants at Bunnings recently. It might be worth checking if your local store has them too.
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